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ClassyMusicSnob
Do you know where the 3 final Sleepytime Gorilla Museum concerts will be in California? Links??
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sbeliy
>What would give life a sense? - Immortality is not a decision cause it longs the therm of existing, but ain't improving abilities. I mean mind abilities. If there is any "objective" sense it is unreachable atm for us, cause we... how I should say... too "weak" system of symbols; we've got narrow mind abilities to get more complective "languages"; the highest peak is the "understanding" of the Universe; as far we are from it, from getting such high-leveled and "detailed" "languages" - that far we are from "real" sense or, at least, it's vision. We've got too much uncounciousness now; we, the neurons.
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sbeliy
Okay. Now you expressed better. I agree, it's another way of "language" or coding. But! I was speaking about another meaning of "meaning". Something about "meaning" that is given by smth like highest intelligence, a God or whatever - the system which gives "morality meaning"; I was speaking about this "meanings". There is no objective "good" and no "objective" bad, such as no "objective" sense/senseless. As we are only part of symbols and we "encode" things in our way - we give them "our" sense (that sense which we only can give in framework of our "language"), so this "our" sense is subjective cause it's suitable only for our "language"; and there is smth which includes all languages, including "us", and that's objective. For example, the Universe. And "objective" sense we still don't get, cause if we could - we would be such different type of "system" of "symbols". I hope I explained it enough well so there won't be misunderstood cause of my bad English :D
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sbeliy
That's about words - subject and object. But objectively - you can put some meaning to thing or not do that, but the _real_ sense won't change cause of your actions. So the meaning people put to things is meaning only for people; thus meaning exists only for creator of meaning. Or meant something another when you wrote "we humans do give meaning to things, in spite of themselves having no meaning at all, we have self-awareness, we are intelligent beings, and that is what makes it possible to give meaning to things"?
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sbeliy
How? Uhh you're lucky, I've saw it for the first time ^^ So, question about words - I dunno. What did you mean? I thought we're speaking of different things; words and their sense as parts of symbol's system - that's one topic, the meaning that we put in things - is another one :)
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