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reallyswellgal
In 2016 Ben continually pursued an underaged trans boy knowing they had no business doing so. Fuck them and everyone who enabled them
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deergut
fuck anyone who justifies what happened to this band. for someone to anonymously accuse someone of something so vile and then disappear into the night after they have everything taken from them is atrocious. the same shit happened to matt mondanile, and michael gira. there is never any level of accountability held for the ACCUSER to PROVE it happened yet these guys lose so much from a baseless allegation. sick of it
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Lancorian
I do wish there would be some clearance. The whole ordeal with the allegations a day or something before the release of Pageant and the dubious nature of them made me question them as well, but I guess that's always the problem with rape allegations. Normally it is really hard to prove and you just have one statement against the other. But it was really strange how fast everyone they knew jumped ship. I also thought the statements from them on FB were okay and sounded like they really want to solve what happened, but everyone else seemed to think it was wildly inappropriate.
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R-Mac
I've been listening to this band for like a month and even without all the controversy they probably would have just faded off because they were 100% a buzz band that NPR etc. overhyped (just like they do with damn near everyone these days - yall thought Courtney Barnett was the queen of music but I'm sleep tho). With that being said, "Answer My Text" and "Sissy" both go off. I can take "New Trick" too.
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FuzzyTraces
why would I? Their music is a farce. how can anyone even listen to "Curse that motherfucker who would spit upon another's body" with a straight face anymore?
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FuzzyTraces
"updates forthcoming" LOL jk i guess, buying time as Ben flees to France à la Polanski
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FuzzyTraces
Absolutely. It'd be great if we could hold cishet predators accountable too. There's far more of them polluting the scene. Hold them to the same (imo, appropriate) standards as Ben.
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weimarrepublic
this band sucked but now we know they are nazi rapists posing as queer allies, HA fuck them
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weimarrepublic
i'm not worried about whether or not they are queer but they definitely aren't allies and were posing as such. wasn't clear, thanks for pointing that out
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weimarrepublic
hi english not my first language but i clearly said they were merely posing as allies. some people obviously bought the act. but i think we can all be glad these deplorable actions have come to light and i applaud the label for pulling the new album. abusive music like this should not be in circulation
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weimarrepublic
i think drawing a swastika and happily posing with it makes you a nazi, which is exactly what they did.
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FuzzyTraces
I'm glad they're being taken seriously but, at the same time, how many cishet band members have done similar dispectable things but NEVER been held accountable? Make no mistake, homophobia and transphobia are the reasons why this has unfolded SO quickly- if at all.
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siriusblackxm
i think homophobia and transphobia definitely had an impact but idk if it was JUST that? pitchfork had a really good article about this where they pointed out that part of the reason they've been dropped so fast is because pwr bttm is is a band of premiere hypocrisy. i mean, these were the people who preached about safe spaces in ever tour venue. every space they were in, all the people they worked with, were committed to safety and consent. so obviously when allegations come out they are dealt with WAY faster. like their label didn't drop them bc of homophobia, imo. everyone else in their spaces were also queer and that was why we all felt so betrayed. but yeah it sucks that all the other rock stars who are literally confirmed rapists are never gonna get that same retribution, but i think it's more "queer spaces care more about consent" than "everyone who supported pwr bttm was homophobic i guess." tho transphobia plagues queer spaces and was probably a factor.
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FuzzyTraces
obvi we don't care that much more about consent seeing as there are some messy queers here blinding defending Ben, slinging hyperbole and misinformation w/ side of victim blaming.
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bellabaxter
how much fucking free time do you have? go do something worthwhile, you ~edgy~ asshole
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