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AngledLuxury
Unnatural Selection is an extremely powerful new school thrash album that delivers enough intensity and aggression to please both fans and casual metal listeners alike.
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luis_punisher
Its a shame that so few thrash bands take the same lyrical aproach as Havok, using more libertarian themes, also songs like F. P. C., Instead of the usual political thrash cliches that were relevant in the 80s but nowadays are so dated. Modern thrash metal is conformist and by the book except for a few.
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ZoltarTheGreat
Yeah like the Punisher. Who is a true libertarian and hates police and the system that depends on them.
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ZoltarTheGreat
I think you missed the point of FPC. Talking about killing and hating cops is also not politically correct but it’s also libertarian. I don’t think either ideology is opposite to each other. FPC is about speaking out on what you belive it’s not just bashing libertarian ideas.
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ZoltarTheGreat
Or maybe I did. Or maybe the band did since PC is more than just being nice to others. It’s just being safe for work.
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luis_punisher
But I meant that Havok were libertarians themselves, based on some of their songs, not that they bash libertarianism.
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RedEyedDream
The album is bogged down a lot by mid-tempo meandering, and there are only three spectacular songs on the album (Phantom Force, Cosmetic Surgery, Panpsychism). It's a shame this album came out right after Warbringer's masterpiece but after all that it's still a good album. The production is top notch too. I just wish they'd stop trying to be AJFA-Metallica since they don't have the good guitar progressions or clever lyrics.
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dylanvieira771
Are you a big fan of this band? I really like this new track too. What is your favourite album of theirs?
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dylanvieira771
Wow, I loved that album. It is a classic thrash album. Well mixed and produced too, the bass sounds awesome.
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dylanvieira771
I had never heard of them before yesterday. Thanks for the answer, will listen some time this week or next.
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Deroth-Rus-
сочный, энергичный и мощный трэш, альбом Time is Up действительно отличный образец именно современного образца жанра
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MunkeyChips
I think the hate stems from people who can't deal with political opinions that differ from their own.
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Woodgod
Or maybe it's because they promoted their album as being some sort of masterpiece full of "truth bombs" and just ended up spewing out the same nonsense every other edgy 13 year old Reddit user does. When you make your oh-so-groundbreaking lyrics the focus of your album and call people who disagree "sheep" or whatever, don't be surprised to be criticized based on them. For the record, I listen to plenty of bands with lyrics I disagree with, and you can see that in my charts. Thrash has been plenty political in the past, but Havoc have done it especially poorly here. This could have been ignored if the music were any good. Unfortunately, the album is below average, musically, worse than what I've heard from them previously. All this combined with the current political climate and you can't be surprised at the backlash. They really shot themselves in the foot with this one when they were generally respected in the current thrash scene. Even Mustaine knows when to shut up.
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MunkeyChips
Your rant has convinced me... Oh, wait. No, I still like them. I like how near the end you agreed with me even though the opinions you hold in the first 2/3 of your response implies you didn't agree. "All this combined with the current political climate and you can't be surprised at the backlash." Exactly my point; Some people who disagree with their political stance end up ranting and raving like little children. It's almost like a reoccurring phenomenon that people have been noticing and Havok just expressed that in their music. "Even Mustaine knows when to shut up." Wow, and you call Havok edgy. lol
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Woodgod
I never said anything about liking or not liking them. I listen to plenty of bands I disagree with lyrically. I was just saying that focusing on politics during a time when politics is in the forefront is going to get you a lot of backlash. A major left-leaning band using similar promotion tactics would have gotten an equal amount of flak from the other side (or probably more from my experience). The Mustaine thing was half in jest, and post-RIP Megadeth mostly sucks, but there's a reason even current Megadeth isn't as controversial .
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MosherSam13
If you don't like what you're hearing here's a three step guide to what you can do, 1. Don't listen to the band, 2. Fuck off, 3. when you get there just fuck off a little further. People are always dicks about this band whether it's untrue BS rumors of how Havok carry themselves around like prima donnas, or shitty comments about the music. David Sanchez is cool as hell and they write killer metal with blisteringly fast paced riffage, shredding solos, shrieking vocals, everything an awesome Thrash Metal band should have and people are crying about the lyrics when there's always been politics in Thrash, Havok are the shit so suck my dick and go get a life.
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Sanity_Theorist
I find it funny that among a sea of metal bands with somewhat forced and awkward lyrics, this band gets targeted when they're coherent and much less shock value oriented than, say, Slayer's drivel. The way they're written is fine to me, it's concise and clear. Absolutely bizarre group to be singled out for metal lyric cliches. COnformicide is also fantastic as hell musically, kinda sounds like a mixture of Suicidal Tendencies's basslines and Exodus's best riffs, with more intense vocals than either.
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Slendamann
It's simpler than that; Havok aren't horifically left-wing like nearly every other band in their genre, so naturally, their lyrics speak more 'truth to power' than adherence to ideology. Songs like FPC and Intention to Deceive aren't exactly controversial to the majority of North Americans and Europeans (if we go by how little people like PC and how little they trust the media), but with how extreme the left-wing has grown in the past decade or so, they probably stung a bunch of thrashers in just the wrong way. "You can't bash PC; because Trump. You can't say the media lies anymore, because Trump". Nevermind the fact that plenty of 80s thrash bands stuck it hard to leftists as well as rightists - but 'that was in the past' as they say.
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Sanity_Theorist
I kinda wish the drums weren't so loud on Time Is Up. Was very distracting for me because of how triggered the kit was, painted monotony over the shifting riffs.
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MelancholyRage
Conformicide... not bad, but doesn't sound like the Havok I remember. I'll go back to the old albums.
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soft_green
i think, i like the new record a lot beacuse of Nick Schendzielos. Once he helped reinvent JFAC music on Sun Eater, then he does the same thing with Havok.
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Sanity_Theorist
Thrash is basically like punk at its core: a very youthful genre that focuses on sheer passion over technicality. Some bands are obvious exceptions, like Watchtower, but I find that approaching it as technical punk helps a lot.
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