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horse_whisperer
Spreading hatred is as bad as hatred itself, please don't -__- It's not so difficult to throw insults at people, if one is so good at judging then he must judge himself first and be a good person himself first of all. This page is about music not a place to throw ones anger and hatred to, it made me feel really sad to read so many insulting comments under such a music -__-
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MJtheRevelator
I stumbled upon this music due to my love for Tai Chi. I did not expect to find somebody with such a dark, dark past. Hopefully the survivors of his predation can find some peace at some point during their lives. http://www.thelocal.de/national/20091205-23735.html
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TheRealEvilOne
Fuck this pedo, he's also a plagiarist, he didn't even write the music. A child molester, a cheater and a liar. Die please.
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Divine-Empyreal
If I were one of the parents, I would certainly want him in jail for the rest of his life. Bud if I were one of those victims of his crimes...I could possibly try to forgive him. I'm not sure though.
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the_amek
There is some kind of perversion in everyone of us. The thing is that for some it's weak enough to decline it whole life, but nevertheless those people are acquainted with their desires and they learned to suppress them. For some, those desires are stronger than their morality, those people are literally pushed to do such things, although they might hate themselves for it. Such people need care and understanding. Words of hate or imprisonment is not going to help them. They will not become better persons listening to all the anger they hear from you all. So.. yes, Mr. Schulz (Shanti) made a very bad crime, but he doesn't necessarily must be that beast you want to see him to be. And the music he makes convinces me he is nothing more than a man who lost a fight with himself. A man who wanted to be good, but he lost to his perverted desires...
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tangerman
He made the music together with others. Knowing that, helps me to keep listening to the music. But, its hard knowing the story about him. Its the same thing going on over at Gary Glitters page. Its much more easy to ban him, cause I never cared about his music anyway. But with Shanti...I struggle because the music is so great, and I later came to knew about what he had done. If I knew before I started listen to him, I might never listened to him again....
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Ben_zee
Every human has positive and negative sides - Shanti showed his in doing great music and helping people to find peace on the one hand, and doing the worst imaginable thing on the other hand. It's hard for me to listen to this great music knowing the story behind it, but yet its a call to overcome the own "dark side". It's a pity that he could not.
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gabbynewneo
I'm so conflicted about him...I love this music very much, but the person behind it made some incredibly bad mistakes. Over 100 accounts of sexual abuse :/ I suppose it's just separating the music from the artist. The music can take a new refuge in someone's mind.
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whatsfaace
É uma lástima que ele esteja envolvido nessas acusações de pedofilia. Independente da sua vida pessoal, as músicas do Oliver são indiscutivelmente maravilhosas e inspiradoras. Basta sabermos separar uma coisa da outra. Gostar do trabalho dele como músico não quer dizer aprovar os erros por ele cometidos. :-\
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Direktor_Mira
I_m_not_good, речь идет не о 300 изнасилованных детях. Оливер обвинялся по 314 пунктам, 76 из которых были доказаны следствием. Ему приписывают сексуальные надругательства над двумя девочками и четырьмя мальчиками. Надругательства над девочками так и не были доказаны, так же как и 238 пунктов обвинения.
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extrabigmehdi
Oliver Shanti confessed to abuse some boys during trial. But according to a German article, there was also a settlement before the trial, that if he pleaded guilty , and confessed everything, his sentence would not exceed 7 years. See there: http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/0,1518,659589,00.html Also lot of interesting information in this forum thread: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1189.0 You learn from here that Oliver Shanti didn't compose all the music, and haven't done most of the work. Also he made a donation scam : "There was also an agreement with a Tibetan organization, giving them one mark per sold unit of the CD Tai Chi, [...] but to this day the Tibetans still haven't seen any money." Also you learn from wikipedia that "Because of Oliver's unavailability, the rest of the group is continuing with Margot Reisinger (new band called "Existence") New "official website" , selling records: http://www.shantirecords.com/
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anasarasvati
Lamentável... Não sabia de nada disso, descobri recentemente e não consigo mais ouvir as músicas... Decepção.
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I_m_not_good
Неужели это правда, что Оливер Шанти основал секту и изнасиловал 300 детей??? о__О не могу поверить
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Lady_of_Light
@Nii-ju-ichi Bad when not. Than I must ask myself: where have I a head for? Only to cut my hairs? ^_- It is not correct to see only ONE person, who has make a "mistake", you must see all artists not only one Person.
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astroanu2004
well said nii-ju-ichi.. what to do if he's done bad things. He will realize it someday.
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Lady_of_Light
Thats I've writen in german nii-ju-ichi ^_^, but with more words and more complicated. xD
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astroanu2004
I was a big fan of him and loved his music so much until i heard about this child abuse thing. i cant believe such and amazing musician did something like this. so disappointing. Why the fuk did he wanted to abuse children?. So now im thinking of not listening to his music. :(
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Callofdutyz
Let's ban this criminal . Too disappointed . I will never listen to this bastard's music
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Histeroid
В нашем несовершенном мире те, кто имеют деньги и власть имеют также и право судить кого угодно и за что угодно - такова грустная правда. Я, как гражданин одной из самых корумпированных стран в мире, не могу не осозновать этого. Вспомните неприятную историю с Michael Jackson...
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depositado
Beautiful music, but he is a disgusting son of a bitch. He should stay in jail for the rest of his life... (we have enough Shanti-music now anyway ;)
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Lady_of_Light
Es wird ihm Kindesmißbrauch vorgeworfen, aber dafür können die Künstler nichts, die mit ihm zusammen gearbeitet haben. Die Musik ist nicht nur alleine auf seine Ideen gebaut, sondern auch auf den Ideen derer, die mit ihm zusammen gearbeitet haben. Ich werde seine Musik deswegen nicht weniger mögen, denn die Künstler und die Musik die er mit anderen gemacht können für seine Vergehen nichts. Das Denken, das man ihn damit unterstützt, wenn man "seine" Musik weiter anhört ist irgendwie ... zu kurz gedacht. Man bestraft durch Boykottierung nicht Oliver Shanti, sondern auch jene, die mit ihm gearbeitet und tolle Lieder geschaffen haben und bezeugt ihnen dadurch, das sie mitschuldig sind. Mißbrauch ist verwerflich, keine Frage, aber die Handlungen der Musik gegenüber sollte man sich mal überlegen, vor allem, welche Folgen das für die haben KÖNNTE die mit ihm zusammen gearbeitet haben. Das wirkt irgendwie als würde man dadurch deren Musik geringschätzen.
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smilingstar3
His music always comes up when I listen to the Last.Fm radio, but I can't listen to the songs anymore, because I feel like I am supporting what he did.
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guenterkarin
Seine Spirituellen Musiken gehen ins Ohr, man kann sich zurücklehnen und die Augen verschließen. Kindesmissbrauch ist allerdings abscheulich und verwerflich. Schade !
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